tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3460560421524914967.post6289940168014671618..comments2023-09-26T02:37:04.510-07:00Comments on HG's WORLD: Sex Trafficking, The World's Second Oldest CrimeHISTORYGUY99http://www.blogger.com/profile/08332841159483231557noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3460560421524914967.post-53112535754171323872009-03-22T08:23:00.000-07:002009-03-22T08:23:00.000-07:00Hi Rev. Daniel,Appreciate your comment and support...Hi Rev. Daniel,<BR/><BR/>Appreciate your comment and support. <BR/><BR/>Historyguy99HISTORYGUY99https://www.blogger.com/profile/08332841159483231557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3460560421524914967.post-73543062959636018412009-03-22T08:02:00.000-07:002009-03-22T08:02:00.000-07:00Dan,Please do not stop reporting these stories. I ...Dan,<BR/><BR/>Please do not stop reporting these stories. I hope the world will get a hold of them and stand up to Human Trafficking. My wife and I are in College and we felt it was important to report about this slavery. Thank you for your reports and everything you do to help these women and girls.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3460560421524914967.post-90199061709978657382009-01-02T04:53:00.000-08:002009-01-02T04:53:00.000-08:00I agree, though that is a long ways away from emph...I agree, though that is a long ways away from emphasizing the issue, or viewing it as the unfinished business of the 21st century, or however Kristoff puts it.<BR/><BR/><BR/>When the problem is a combination of "you're poor" and "I'm a puritan," the solution is wealth and MYOB.Dan tdaxphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07205344738190870766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3460560421524914967.post-14552327467391175212009-01-01T20:11:00.000-08:002009-01-01T20:11:00.000-08:00Dan,Thanks for your excellent comment.As you menti...Dan,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for your excellent comment.<BR/><BR/>As you mentioned about OSHA, a century ago we were just like those Guangzhou factories, with HR policies that were just this side of being an indentured worker. <BR/><BR/>The best to be said is that there is hope for change, as those of us who care raise our collective voices to support rulesets that allow for conditions that will build a better life. <BR/><BR/>Along the way, problems mostly solved in the core states, like priracy, slavery and the suppression of women, will begin to be stamped out in the gap states.HISTORYGUY99https://www.blogger.com/profile/08332841159483231557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3460560421524914967.post-87948728218845383292009-01-01T19:41:00.000-08:002009-01-01T19:41:00.000-08:00HG,Excellent reply.As I think we agree, this is an...HG,<BR/><BR/>Excellent reply.<BR/><BR/>As I think we agree, this is an issue that is so emotionally-laden it helps to think about it as consisting of its constuent parts.<BR/><BR/>For instance, underage labor in any industry tends to be a function of economic underdevelopment in the country in which such underage labor occurs. The problem from our perspective is not the underage labor as such, but that the country is so far in the gap of the global economy that the underage labor has a real chance to exist.<BR/><BR/>The use of a training regime, whether Skinnerian conditioning or late 19th-century Scientific Management or whatever, presumably thrives to the extent it is effective and management knows how to compare the effectiveness of such a training regime.<BR/><BR/>I presume that if the H.R. policy of any random factor in Guangzhou would become widespread in Nevada, this would create controversy. Indeed, that's why we have OSHA: because we can afford to create a floor in the quality of work for labor, and accept that this naturally results in some lost income.Dan tdaxphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07205344738190870766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3460560421524914967.post-10950971986895351582009-01-01T19:36:00.000-08:002009-01-01T19:36:00.000-08:00Hi Dan,As always your comments are first rate and ...Hi Dan,<BR/><BR/>As always your comments are first rate and insightful.<BR/><BR/>You are right about the two issues. Prostitution as such is not so much the problem as the selling and buying of underage women, then using torture to maintain disipline. <BR/><BR/>Other countries currently tolerate <BR/>prostitution as do some counties in our own United States (Nevada). If it was revealed that the girls of the old "Mustang Ranch" were given electic shocks to keep them smiling, the public outrage would have seen the place burned down.<BR/><BR/>I agree that Kristof has moved from observer to crusader, when he became personally involved in trying to solve the prolem. In this case, I think if I were in his shoes, I would have done the same.HISTORYGUY99https://www.blogger.com/profile/08332841159483231557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3460560421524914967.post-33669406640863796482009-01-01T18:39:00.000-08:002009-01-01T18:39:00.000-08:00A good post.One problem in this topic, and I think...A good post.<BR/><BR/>One problem in this topic, and I think it's one that Kristof's entangled himself with it, is separating the issue of slavery from the issue of poor working conditions. The first may be a universal human rights concern -- the second is obviously a problem of economic development<BR/><BR/>Those on the left and right who wish to end prostitution as such further compound the problem, defining sex work as having poor working conditions per se, or even being a form of slavery per se.Dan tdaxphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07205344738190870766noreply@blogger.com